Tuesday, March 4, 2008

Help! Help! I'm Being Repressed!

I hope that you all got that great line from Mighty Python and the Holy Grail. But it is true I am being repressed. You may remember a few posts ago when I was talking about the Christian discussion board, that I had found, bibleforums.com. Well I would like you all to know that as of now my account has been suspended. I can no longer post until I argue successfully that I was not promoting Roman Catholic Doctrines. Which I was not.

Let me set it up for you. There was a post in the "Bible Chat" forum called "Saints and Patron Saints." So I think this should be fun and also what is this doing here that should be in the "World Religions" section (this is where the banish all the posts that have to do with Catholic stuff, I know it is sad). So the person wants to know where they can find some stuff about the Saints and Patron Saints. So I help out by giving them a website that has all the Saints on it. I also go on to explain that it is not really praying to Saints but asking the Saints to pray for us; because someone had already misunderstood the idea. So this morning I got a message saying that my post has been deleted so that they will not have to move the thread to the "World Religions" section. Their reasoning is that I was promoting Catholic Doctrine. This is not correct because I started out the post saying that I was Anglican and I was going to explain the idea from an Anglican point of view. Then later this morning I got a message saying that they are suspending my account until we can discuss my promoting Catholic Doctrine.

Following is what I posted in the original thread. (Stars is the person who asked the question: "Is there a place I can learn about all saints and patron saints?")

"Stars,

Here is a list of Saints and Angels, it has a very long list of saints on the site. With a description of them. http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php

I don't see asking the saints to pray for me as anything bad. A lot of Protestants misunderstand the concept. I know I did before I studied it and before I became Anglican. It is not praying to the saints it is only asking for the saint to pray for you as you pray for yourself also. A lot of people ask the saint to pray for them if they are having trouble with one certain problem. For instance if I was having trouble writing a paper then I might ask a saint who wrote a lot to pray for me because he/she dealt with writing a lot and knows better then I do what I need help with or why I am having problems. I like to think about it the same way that I would ask a friend or fellow Christian to pray for me. The more people I have praying for me the better. The saints just happen to be dead. But they have better access to the Father then we living people do because we still have to get through our sinful nature, whereas the saints who are in heaven have had then sinful natures taken away from them because they are in heaven in the presence of God and he can not have sin anywhere near him.

I hope that makes some sense. "

I go into the explanation because of this post: "Stars, honestly a saint is a born again child of God and a patron saint is a fantasy. There is a RCC dogma (teachings) that say you can pray to your patron saint and they will make intercession for you, but that just plumb ain't true. We only have and need one advocate and that's Christ Jesus. 1st John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

So later you will find a post on here that will be an allegory about bibleforums.com and some other stuff. It should be pretty fun or funny, whatever.

So I think I will be kicked off of the board. Which really it took longer then I thought it would have. So I would not suggest posting on this forum unless you are uber-Protestant, or can get along with them, really, really well.

Jesse

3 comments:

Josh Neikirk said...

Wow... I love the way you say that you are Anglican, and they think you are promoting Catholic Teaching. Even besides that, you were responding to a comment that was already posted. I cannot understand the reasoning from the moderators on this one. If they wanted to stop the conversation, then they should have deleted the entire thread.

And I definately don't see the justification in saying that a Catholic conversation belongs under World Religions. Is it somehow a religion that is not based upon the Bible? This is ridiculous, and I'm not sure I could support a group which discriminates against my fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.

Jesse Alexander said...

Yeah, I know but I don't have to worry about it because I have been kicked out. Because I am unwilling to let heresies and misconceptions run rapid without being checked on the main forum. They will not let anyone or me even explain Catholic or Anglican doctrine that "overlaps" with Roman doctrine. So yeah I think I will stick to Theology Rocks because the people there are much smarter and everyone is welcome. This is why I dislike Protestants so much they cannot even discuss anything that is different then what they are. I should just create another account and mess with them to no end. But I am way to lazy for that.

Josh Neikirk said...

I just joined a new Facebook group last week, called Real Christians. I imputed in two discussions. Well as it turned out, the people who started it were the same type of people from your discussion boards. They believed in dispensationalism to the point where they claimed that the Holy Spirit revealed it to them that all the texts which refer to the destruction of the Temple were really about the end of the world. The think that the Dome of the Rock (and Islam) are the abomination of desolation, and that the nation of Israel is somehow an anti-christ. I left the group because after 3 posts my head nearly imploded because of their stupidity.